This morning I was going to respond to a post here and couldn't login.
I remembered that 8.5 had a different login & logged in there.
To go there:
Click on the link to "All Forums" at the top of this page.
Scroll down 'til you see the "8.5" in the link to the forum. It's in the first column of community forums on that page.
Use the login link at the top left of the forum page.